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Presidential Press Release

Posted by Fleet News Service on April 13, 2008

For Immediate Release
Office of the President
April 13, 2008

I will begin by saying a most unpopular thing. We are not quite united. We have among us people who realize that this is a time when it is equally good to live or die, because we are at war. We also have among us a group of intellectuals who have no idea a fighting force is made up of people who are ready and able to fight for our survival. We are no longer fighting for our freedoms, we are fighting for our very lives.

Commander Syakumi has my full support. Her efforts to make Pacifica battle-ready come at a time when it is sorely needed. We must have discipline at a time when we are fighting a very capable enemy.

It may not be apparent to those among us who believe Pacifica is a resort ship or an art commune, but we sustained a total and unmitigated defeat when we lost the colonies. We were guilty of gross neglect and deficiency of our defenses. By the Gods, that will never happen again on my watch.

Insurrection and sedition have severe consequences. Direct orders cannot be disobeyed. Perpetrators can and will be shot, court martialled, or ejected permanently from military duty.

The orders Commander Syakumi gave are to keep us battle ready. There may be more such orders in the future. If you are unwilling or unable to comply with the military needs of readiness, perhaps civilian life would suit you better.

Here follows the full text of the regulation. Military personnel should read it carefully, since it contains a variety of options.

Tanya Halberd

Colonial President

(Click below to read the full, extended document)

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COLONIAL FLEET ORDER 8371.07E

From: Commander Syakumi

To: All Active Servicemembers

Subj: COLONIAL FLEET POLICY CONCERNING PREGNANCY AND PARENTHOOD

Encl:

(1) Format for Commanding Officer Notification

(2) Health Care Provider Pregnancy Notification to Commanding Officer/Officer in Charge (CO/OIC)

1. Purpose. To revise Colonial Fleet and Colonial Marine Corps policy and procedures for expecting servicemembers assigned to the Battlestar Pacifica regarding the assignment, retention, separation, prescribed standards of conduct, and medical management of normal pregnancies. This policy also pertains to servicemembers considering the adoption of an infant/child and single male parents.

2. Information

a. As indicated, parenthood is a natural event that can occur in the lives of Colonial Fleet and Marine personnel, and can be compatible with a successful military career. There are responsibilities that come with parenthood, and for those in uniform, these responsibilities require increased consideration and planning due to military commitments. Servicemembers are expected to balance the demands of a naval career with their family plans and responsibilities.

b. The overriding concern for commanding officers (COs), supervisory personnel, and health care providers responsible for pregnant servicewomen serving with the Colonial Fleet and Colonial Marine Corps is to provide for the health and safety of the servicewoman and her unborn child while maintaining optimum job and career performance. Policy and procedures are required to ensure the health, welfare, and administrative support of pregnant Marines and Naval personnel, and to minimize the impact a pregnancy has on operational readiness.

c. If a servicemember is pregnant, they are non-deployable. For the purpose of this Order, the Battlestar Pacifica is in a constant state of wartime deployment, rendering pregnancy incompatible with front-line, combat arms service.

d. The decisions surrounding parenthood and family matters can best be made in an environment of concerned leadership. Military responsibilities require command attention to help servicemembers fulfill their duty to their unit and also meet family responsibilities.

e. Parenthood should not restrict tasks normally outside the domain of a Combat Arms MOS, but will limit the ability to perform routine tasks associated with a combat-oriented military occupational specialty (MOS) and/or billet, and will require reassignment.

3. Responsibilities

a. Individual Responsibilities

(1) It is strongly recommended that the servicemember make every effort to plan their parenthood to enable them to successfully balance the demands of family responsibilities and military obligations.

(2) In order to allow commanders the opportunity to solidify and maintain unit integrity throughout a deployment life cycle, all combat arms servicemembers assigned to the Battlestar Pacifica will report to the medical department for the administration of a hormonal birth control injection.  The hormonal birth control being utilized will render a servicemember temporarily incapable of producing children, and will be readministered on a regular basis for as long they remain active in a combat arms MOS.  Six weeks after the last injection received, full reproductive capabilities will return.  Combat Aviators, Marines, or special operations personnel who have undergone hysterectomy, vasectomy, or bilateral tubal ligation are exempt.

(3) A combat arms servicemember may choose to refuse the administration of a hormonal birth control injection by explicitly citing religious or moral reasons.  Any combat arms servicemember who chooses on this basis may elect to continue service in a non-combat arms capacity or be voluntarily separated from service.  Alternatively, if a combat arms servicemember is found to be pregnant already, they may opt to accept temporary reassignment for the term of their pregnancy if they intend to give the unborn baby up for adoption, after which they will be reinstated to their former unit.  Refusal to comply with at least one of these expectations will result in a military court-martial.

(4) In the event of a declaration of peacetime, or in the event of a non-combat arms MOS, servicemembers shall seek confirmation of pregnancy by a military health care provider (HCP) or inform their superior officers of any intent to adopt or foster a child through paternity. They should also report as soon as possible to supporting departments to establish a prenatal care program.

(5) The expectant parent servicemember is to notify their CO or Officer In Charge (OIC) regarding their pregnancy or intent to foster a child (enclosure (1)) as soon as possible. This will facilitate planning a request for replacement.

(6) The servicemember is responsible for performing military duties within the limits established by their parenthood. They are also responsible for
complying with work site and task related safety and health recommendations made by appropriate occupational health professionals, including the use of
personal protective equipment.

(7) After delivery, servicewomen will participate in an exercise program, as soon as medically authorized, to prepare for the physical fitness test (PFT). No later than 1 month after being returned to non-combat duty by the HCP, the servicewoman is required to take the PFT and conform to the acceptable height/weight standards per reference (b). Additional time may be recommended by HCP and granted, if necessary, due to unique medical circumstances.

b. Family Care Plan

(1) Any servicemember anticipating the responsibilities associated with parenthood is required to make arrangements for child care to cover regular working hours, duty, exercises, war, and combat contingency deployment.

(2) All single servicemembers and dual military couples with eligible family members are responsible for initiating a formalized family care plan. A completed family care plan will certify that family members will be cared for during the servicemember’s absence.  It will also identify the designated legal guardian of the eligible family member(s), as well as the logistical, relocation, and financial arrangements.

c. Billeting

(1) Per reference (a), a pregnant active duty servicewoman with no family members may reside in private quarters if such quarters are available for her full term. If the pregnant servicewomen requests, the commander may authorize her to occupy off-ship housing.

5. Notification Procedures

a. All pregnant servicewomen and servicemembers of either gender adopting a child, regardless of component/grade, will notify their commanding officer in writing within 2 days of medical confirmation of pregnancy or 1 month prior to obtaining legal custody of the adopted child. The notification letter will be
formatted per enclosure (1).

b. HCP Notification of Pregnancy to Commanding Officer. Upon confirmation of pregnancy by an HCP, written notification of the servicewoman’s condition will be directed to the servicewoman’s immediate CO. The HCP notification letter is to be submitted as an enclosure to the servicewoman’s notification letter to the CO. The notification letter will include the estimated date of delivery and a determination as to whether any medical reasons exist that make remaining in a full duty status inadvisable. For purposes of this Order, medical certification of pregnancy by a civilian physician is acceptable.

6. Assignments

a. The servicewoman will not be assigned to duties that may adversely affect her health or the health of her unborn child. In consultation with the appropriate HCP, the CO shall determine work assignment limitations.  Results of the industrial hygiene site survey, evaluation by the occupational health care provider, or recommendations by the obstetrical health care provider may indicate the need for reassignment or work restriction(s).

b. A servicewoman reassigned due to pregnancy will be returned to the same billet, in the same command whenever possible, or to an equivalent billet in a command of the same type following the pregnancy, only if a position is available.

7. General Limitations

a. After confirmation of pregnancy, a pregnant servicewoman shall be exempt from:

(1) Routine physical training and the PFT during pregnancy and for 6 months following delivery. However, the servicewoman will participate in an exercise program approved by her OB healthcare provider. A servicewoman whose pregnancy terminates prematurely or results in a stillborn should inform her command as ordered in paragraph 5b(6) of this Order and consult with her OB healthcare provider to determine when it would be advisable to resume physical training and take the PFT.

(2) Exposure to chemical or toxic agents/environmental hazards that are determined unsafe by the cognizant occupational health professional or the health care provider.

(3) Standing at parade rest or attention for longer than 15 minutes.

(4) All routine immunizations except as indicated in reference (l).

(5) Participation in weapons training, swimming qualifications, drown-proofing, and any other physical training requirements that may affect the health of the servicewoman/fetus. Diving duty is hazardous and carries an increased hyperbaric risk to the fetus; therefore, any type of diving during pregnancy is prohibited.

b. The pregnant servicewoman may be allowed to work shifts.

8. Specific Limitations. During the last 3 months of pregnancy (weeks 28 and beyond) the servicewoman shall be:

a. Allowed to rest 20 minutes every 4 hours (sitting in a chair with feet up is acceptable).

b. Limited to a 40-hour workweek. The 40 hours may be distributed among any 7-day period, but hours are defined by the servicewoman’s presence at her duty station, and not by type of work performed. Pregnancy does not remove a servicewoman from watch standing responsibilities, but all hours shall count as part of the 40 hour per week limitation. In instances where the unit work week/watch standing requirements exceed 40 hours, the CO, in consultation with the HCP, must be informed and approve, on a case-by-case basis, extension of the servicewoman’s work week beyond 40 hours. The servicewoman may request a work waiver to extend her hours beyond the stated 40-hour week, if she is physically capable and her OB HCP concurs.

9. Medical Considerations for Work Assignments

a. General. Few restrictions are required in an uncomplicated pregnancy of a physically fit, trained servicewoman working in a safe environment.

b. Work Reassignment. The servicewoman shall not be assigned to duties where she may be exposed to a reproductive/developmental hazard to herself, or other, including her developing fetus. A pregnant servicewoman’s duties/occupation may cause or exacerbate symptoms such as lightheadedness or nausea. In  consultation with the appropriate HCP, the CO shall determine work assignment limitations. The results of the industrial hygiene site survey, evaluation by the occupational HCP, or recommendations of the OB HCP may indicate the need for reassignment or work restriction(s) per reference (j). Common restrictions from duty fall into the following categories:

(1) Medical. Clinical conditions as identified by the servicewoman’s OB HCP.

(2) Ergonomic. Instances where there may be no obvious medical contraindications, but where the individual’s physical configuration/abilities prohibit participation (such as lying in a prone position for weapons qualifications, certain duty aboard ships, etc.) or where nausea or fatigability would be hazardous to the servicewoman, the unborn child, or other servicemembers of the unit.

(3) Other. Areas of questionably harmful effects such as chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear effects (CBRNE) training, a regular unit physical training program and certain unit qualification tests or hands on elements of skills qualification tests.

10. Inoculations

a. It has been determined that live virus immunizations can be hazardous to an unborn child if conception occurs within 3 months of vaccination.

b. Medical personnel will ask servicewomen if they are pregnant (lab testing is NOT required). If the answer is YES, the immunization is to be deferred. If the answer is MAYBE, refer the servicewoman for evaluation. If the answer is NO, immunize the servicewoman.

c. If live virus vaccine is administered, servicewomen are to be counseled to avoid becoming pregnant for 3 months. This counseling will be documented in the servicewoman’s health record.

11. OB/GYN Care – General

a. Per reference (a), servicewomen assigned to the Battlestar Pacifica will be given priority over other active duty personnel receiving routine OB/GYN care in all medical facilities.

b. Active duty servicewomen may obtain OB/GYN care at civilian fleet medical facilities.

12. Convalescent Leave

a. The servicewoman’s CO may grant a period of convalescent leave for an active duty servicewoman who is not fit for duty and requires additional medical care as recommended by her OB HCP. The length of convalescent leave will normally be 42 days after discharge following any uncomplicated vaginal delivery or cesarean section.

b. It is the responsibility of the servicewoman to report any complications or medical problems that she has experienced during convalescent leave to her attending physician. The attending physician may then recommend an extension beyond the standard 42 days based on the servicewoman’s clinical circumstances. The HCP must certify that the patient is not fit for duty, will not need hospitalization during the contemplated convalescent leave period, and that such leave will not delay the final disposition of the patient. The servicewoman’s permanent command must be notified of this recommendation.

13. Servicewomen With Nursing Infants

a. Servicewomen who desire to continue breastfeeding upon return to non-combat duty must do so in a civilian area.

14. Children

a.  Children are not allowed on the Battlestar Pacifica at any time, for any reason, with the explicit exception of rescue or emergency operations that necessitate their temporary relocation to the ship.  Immediately following the conclusion of any such operation, children will be relocated to a ship within the civilian fleet immediately.

15. Adoption

a. Infants Placed for Adoption. Pregnant servicewomen intending to place their infant for adoption are not eligible for combat arms reassignment until
delivery and adoption requirements are completed. Initial guidance and assistance for placing infants for adoption can be obtained from the local civilian government. Servicewomen intending to place their infants for adoption will meet with the appropriate legal counsel and placement agencies to ensure specific legal requirements are followed.

15. Separation from Active Duty

a. Upon medical certification of pregnancy, a servicemember may request separation by submitting an Administrative Action Form (COLFLT 23581) to the
appropriate separation authority as defined by reference (q). References (c) and (q) provide for separations for the convenience of the Colonial Government by reason of parenthood or by reason of dependency or hardship should a servicewoman become unable to fulfill military obligations or become unavailable for ship assignment.

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FORMAT FOR COMMANDING OFFICER NOTIFICATION

Date:

From: Servicemember’s Grade, Full Name

To: Commanding Officer

Subj: FORMAT FOR SERVICEMEMBER NOTIFICATION OF PREGANACY/ADOPTION TO COMMANDING OFFICER

Encl:

(1) Medical Certification of Pregnancy

(2) Separation Request (only if applicable)

1. I have been fully counseled and understand the contents of the Colonial Fleet’s policy concerning pregnancy and parenthood, and provide the following information:

a. This is to notify the command of my anticipated parenthood / pregnancy.  In the event that I am pregnant, a medical certificate of pregnancy is provided as enclosure (1) and includes the estimated date of delivery and whether any medical reasons exist which make remaining in a full duty status inadvisable.  In the event that I am adopting or fathering a child, legal certification of the adoption or paternity testing is provided as enclosure (1).

b. I understand that I am responsible for making arrangements for child care during regular working hours, duty, exercises, war or combat contingency deployment, etc., and will develop a Family Care Plan.  I understand that I am responsible for making arrangements for child care during periods of service, and that my child will not be allowed to accompany me nor reside with me aboard the Battlestar Pacifica.

c. I understand that I may request separation …

Select only one of the following two sentences:

Option A: If I feel that extenuating circumstances exist which preclude my further service.

Option B: Since I feel that extenuating circumstances exist which preclude my further service, enclosure (2) is my request for separation per paragraph 18.

d. I understand that I remain available for fleetwide assignment and that there is no guarantee of special consideration in duty assignments or duty stations based solely on my intended parenthood or the fact that I will have a dependent.

2. If I am pregnant, I will advise the command of any unexpected changes in my medical status and will return to full duty as soon as medically authorized.

3. If I am pregnant, I understand that I must be prepared to pass a military Physical Fitness Test and conform to the acceptable weight standards no later than 6 months following my return to full duty. I will commence physical training as soon as medically authorized.

________________________________
Service member’s Signature

_________________________________
Counselor’s Signature

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HEALTH CARE PROVIDER PREGNANCY NOTIFICATION TO COMMANDING OFFICER/OFFICER IN CHARGE (CO/OIC)

FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY

Date:

From: Military Health Care Provider

To: Commanding Officer/Officer-in-Charge

Subj: Servicemember’s Name

1. This is to notify you that a member of your command, _______________, is pregnant. Using current dating information, her estimated date of conception is ________________________. This would make her 20th week about ______________________ and her 28th week about _____________________________.

2. Pregnancy is a condition that includes a range of physiological changes that can potentially lead to clinical findings that would result in your command having to modify the servicewoman’s job function/working hours. In addition, certain unforeseen conditions related to the pregnancy may arise that could warrant specific medical interaction and further physical limitation of the servicewoman’s activities.

_____________________
Signature/Rank

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16 Responses to “Presidential Press Release”

  1. Onyx Syakumi said

    (( A quick note to go here. Guys, this is a Role-Playing environment. We are emulating a show that is consider one of the best-written and produced on television because of the fact that it deals with relevant and controversial issues. In Battlestar Galactica, we have seen President Roslin unilaterally declare that abortion be outlawed (the exact opposite of the current dramatic interjection we are dealing with), and even worse subjects: is it ever “right” to condone suicide bombing? Is Xenophobia acceptable? Is genocide?

    You are all Role-Playing your characters in a fictional world, and you should not lose sight of that. This controversy COULD serve as the basis for truly dynamic Role-Playing on everyone’s part provided that it is approached MATURELY and SENSIBLY.

    With respect to the specific order that was given, it was compressed into a single notice and frankly, we made it short and sweet for the sake of sparing you all what you’ve presumably just read up above. Frankly, we didn’t think anyone would want to concern themselves with the details. But alas, for the past six hours we developed an actual document for you to evaluate, discuss, debate … to Role-Play with.

    The only thing that I am going to caution you on is that you need to keep a level head on what your character is doing. If you are a member of the military going onto a *public* media forum and advocating mutiny and sedition, what do you *reasonably* think the reaction is going to be? You’re *not* playing your characters realistically when you’re doing this … and if you are, well, don’t say we didn’t warn you.

    Now let’s all try to calm down, realize we’re all friends here (or should be) and get to actually Role-Playing our characters, please? This is frankly the first major “controversy” that could spark healthy, persistent RP in this Sim. Let’s NOT lose it to OOC squabbling.

    Thanks.))

    -Onyx

  2. Capt. Anax Barbosa said

    ((Okay so for the purposes of the Role play, can you make one thing clear for those of us still a little confused. Are male members of the Pacifica who are married and and whose spouses are NOT military officers required to submit to this procedure or not?))

  3. Rhys Nieuport said

    (( I could not agree more. I hope everyone will keep their characters struggles separate from their own emotions. A character can be challenged in game but it is not the players in the game world challenging your character, it is fictional people, just part of the story. Play nice with the other players in the sand box and remember to enjoy the adversity that your character and other characters face. ))

  4. Onyx Syakumi said

    >>e. Parenthood should not restrict tasks normally outside the domain of a Combat Arms MOS, but will limit the ability to perform routine tasks associated with a combat-oriented military occupational specialty (MOS) and/or billet, and will require reassignment.<>(4) In the event of a declaration of peacetime, or in the event of a non-combat arms MOS, servicemembers shall seek confirmation of pregnancy by a military health care provider (HCP) or inform their superior officers of any intent to adopt or foster a child through paternity. They should also report as soon as possible to supporting departments to establish a prenatal care program.<<

    (( If you are not a combat MOS (namely a Viper pilot, Raptor pilot, Marine, or Special Ops member), you do not have to do it. ))

    -Onyx

  5. Datan Lanzet, Citizen said

    ((this is a role playing sim??? DAMMIT… I though I teleported into something else. I’m just glad someone else typed up a long document for a change!!!!! It reads sweetly, damned, someone should get academic credit for it!

    Good job, did you base it on something? wow
    ))

    Datan

  6. A player said

    ((( if you are concerend with how our characters act? Does this apply to you Admins owners and moderators as well? Lets look at what you all have Done? you killed off IC a person who got removed from the Sim to explain why she is gone IC?. Where is Lauri the Cylon, are you willing to do the same for her or even security cheif Ronon? or Cobb? Why are you making examples of certain people that you are picking and choosing? What is the IC explanation of Lauri the cylon’s sudden disapparence from the fleet or Ronon’e or Cobb’s these major players, to pick out and kill a person you have removed from the sim is seen as mean and hash and you all are picking on the people and Kicking them when they are down even more, you banned them leave them be. You all are picking OOC stuff and placing it IC it is not the players who are doing this, If this was not the case you would not have done something to the Virgon Rep, or even with the previous virgon rep who got tangled up in stuff. this IC solution to OOC issues needs to stop if you want the people to concentrate on what their characters do. You need to have some respect for the people that roleplay in the sim, as you pointed out in the meeting, you are not even close to breaking even in the rent of the sim, If you all can not actually talk to people and help guide the sims roleplay, i can see people leaving and starting their own sims, and then soon you will be just one of many BSG sims not orginal anymore not unique. I am not bashing you, I am trying to help you see that their have been mistakes, and maybe stop and think how are people going to really see this are we a nice rp family or if i do this will we piss people off more, And to the new “official statement IC i think the citizens of the fleet have every right to ask for the President to step down, and if not impeach her. (but will this really happen she is an owner after all? ) ))
    (( what would also stop anyone from trying to assinate her ic? or onyx or the admiral besides the “golden rule” don’t frack with others rp, That is hard to up hold in an on going sim all 24/7? you are bound to frack some ones rp? Look at Smoke, Lauri did and she said deal with it? what did you do to her? so are you all willing to hold to this Standard? you set it up personally i think it is an impossible rule to live to in the a active rp sim))

    I am sure you will all say what a coward i am for hiding, behind “A player” but i have seen what you have done to others and have heard the Admin bashing of players and i do not wish to have that happen to me in any OOC or IC.
    And yes i am an active roleplayer in the SIM.

    Thank you

  7. Onyx Syakumi said

    (( No, we won’t call you a coward, Liana. We all know it’s you anyway.

    And by the way, I had nothing to do with plotting your character’s death ICly. kthx, bye! ))

    – Onyx

  8. A player said

    (Sorry Onyx it is Not Liana, or anyone who you expect it to be, it is the reason I am staying as A Player, I am still an active Role player in the sim … And for you Onyx as an Owner of the sim to say you had nothing to do with plotting Liana’s death is a cheap cop out. You are a part owner you are heald to issues like this as all. I would assume you agreed to it all. Then if you did you are just as responsable as the ones who did. ))

  9. OOC response here, as the comments are here and I deleted my forum account:

    “if you are concerend with how our characters act? Does this apply to you Admins owners and moderators as well? Lets look at what you all have Done? you killed off IC a person who got removed from the Sim to explain why she is gone IC?. Where is Lauri the Cylon, are you willing to do the same for her or even security cheif Ronon? or Cobb?”

    “What is the IC explanation of Lauri the cylon’s sudden disapparence from the fleet or Ronon’e”

    Lauri the Cylon is pregnant with (or has by now likely given birth to) a hybrid child, and has been off-duty for quite a while. Representative Ronon Maximus has likely been with her for most of this time. I’d venture to suggest that Lauri the Cylon has been confined to quarters or sickbay on Pacifica, and Ronon stays close by her or commutes to the battlestar regularly. Neither of the players permanently left the game, but are taking an extended break from it for personal reasons.

    “what would also stop anyone from trying to assinate her ic? or onyx or the admiral besides the “golden rule” don’t frack with others rp, That is hard to up hold in an on going sim all 24/7? you are bound to frack some ones rp? Look at Smoke, Lauri did and she said deal with it? what did you do to her? so are you all willing to hold to this Standard?”

    Onyx was not on the Admin team when this occurred. Smoke was provided with an explanation and public apology, and offered ways to move forward from the incident without undue disruption, along with Eyea (who was also affected by the incident). Eyea took the IC path and remained in play, Smoke took the OOC path and left the game. I was largely supported by the Admin team of the day, and stayed on until the OOC drama smothered the IC roleplay.

  10. Freya KC said

    OOC: I remember when I joined the Army many years ago — we were not told we had to use birth control, however, my first duty assignment 4 of my fellow soldiers were discharged when they became pregnant. I had a friend in basic that upon joining had to give custody of her two young children to her mother. The Army’s view at the time was simple “We didn’t issue you children.” I think this is difficult situation for all and provides a great opportunity for role-play. I too agree that this is an RP – the cylons greatly outnumber the civilians and military — sacrifice is the name of the game. Many of our characters lost families, friends etc. although repopulation is a goal to strive for – losing military strength and thus the protection of the fleet is unacceptable for most of our characters. I believe this sets up an incredible role-play environment in which my characters and others can be better defined and developed.

  11. Sagitarian Marine said

    Variety of options? The President is off her rocker. You either take the drug or you don’t. If you don’t your ‘variety’ of options are the brig or training for a new trade. I don’t know much but killing and now the President and the Commander are taking that away from me.

    (( OOC: Posted by Player of Rhys Nieuport cuz I don’t believe in being an anonymous contributor to the game. But I wanted to offer some flavor of other reasons for refusal in the military other than my own characters. ))

  12. Liana Inshan OOC said

    A Player thank you for your comments and they are quite appreciated. And Frankly you are completly right.

  13. Sue McCullough said

    IC: When you come right down to it, the ‘Contraception Order’ is a practical, last-ditch attempt to keep us all alive. There’s been all this talk about our rights and our liberties being subverted by this order. Well, why don’t you think about this a bit before going off and criticizing the Commander?

    First off, we don’t have all that many pilots. How many can we loose and still have any chance at all of pulling thru an attack? Now, I do NOT have an actual number to answer that question, but, I’ll stake an awful lot on it’s being a VERY low number. So many ppl are all up in arms over this issue. Well, just what will you all do if we have to sideline a few more pilots due to pregnancy, and the number that’s left to fly isn’t enough to stop the next attack? I’ll say right now what you’ll do: You’ll DIE. If we send out a force that’s too small, the toasters will mow right thru it, killing most if not all of the few pilots sent against them.

    And, let me clarify something here. By ‘pilots’, I’m referring to both Viper AND Raptor pilots. When a viper gets nailed, it’s the raptor pilots who go out and bring that viper jockey back home to fly and fight again. Reduce the number of raptor pilots too far, and you’ll have to pull a viper pilot out of combat to fly SAR in our place, further reducing our defenses.

    Now, I do NOT mean to down-play the importance of the fleet’s other combat elements. If the toasters get thru us in the air, and manage to board, then it’ll come down to the marines fighting them in the corridors. And again, that will come down to numbers. Reduce the number of marines available to repel the Cylons below a certain point, and it becomes just a matter of time until total defeat.

    No pilots and no marines left equals no human race left. Is THAT what you’re all arguing to get? Are some of you so incredibly self-centered that you’ll actually put your so-called RIGHT to have children above the very preservation of our whole species? If any of you answer yes to that… may all the gods and goddesses have mercy on you, because I won’t!

    People! You’re acting as tho this contraception order is a sterilization decree! It isn’t! The shot will either prevent pregnancy for a certain TEMPORARY period of time, or be reversible. Gods, anyone in a combat unit who’s having sex and has any common sense is already using contraception! Frak it… Even if you’re celibate, with things as screwed up as they are, you could still be raped and get pregnant.

    Gods… We’re fighting for our very SURVIVAL here! We need to do anything and everything we can to keep our defenses as strong as possible. Just sit and think a bit about what happens if we don’t…

    Ens. Sue McCullough
    27th Raptor Sqdn.

    OOC: Hey Everyone. Read what onyx wrote in Response #1. We’re all here doing BSG ROLE PLAYING! We sometimes get so caught up in dealing with missions and attacks that we tend to overlook the chance to RP some social issues. Well, we’ve just had a big one dropped right into our laps. So, what are we gonna do? I say lets take it and play with it. But, above all, lets PLEASE keep in mind that we’re playing characters here. What happens between THEM, shouldn’t mess up the RL friendships and bonds that we’ve all developed.

    Susan

  14. Just Someone Else said

    ((We’re going OOC with this here too? Really?

    When a player has a chance of coming back, their characters are left in limbo, waiting for them. This includes all persons that feel the need to take a break, have real life issues to deal with, or are upset at the sim or the people in it and need to go away for a while to get their thoughts collected.

    Those that are banned have no chance of coming back, and so their characters are written out of the story, one way or another. Whether they die or get married to the fat chicken-eating merchant on the Orion Princess doesn’t matter. Sometimes, their writing out makes the headlines, most often it does not. So, for those of you upset that the disappearance of a banned character was explained in a way that you don’t approve of, I have one simple word. Tough. Though I had nothing to do with the writing of Liana’s death, I stand by those that did write it.

    As far as Lauri’s exposure of Julian’s Cylon character, she was dealt with in regards to it. As Lauri pointed out, Julian was offered a number of alternatives, not the least of which was a retcon. Julian elected to do away with the character and start up another one.))

  15. heidi17 said

    ((Want to point out that my OOC above is from me, Heidi, and not from my general population NPC. Want to make sure everbody knows exactly who said that.))

  16. eyea said

    [[[[A player Says:

    (OOC )
    April 14, 2008 at 6:19 am
    (Sorry Onyx it is Not Liana, or anyone who you expect it to be, it is the reason I am staying as A Player, I am still an active Role player in the sim … And for you Onyx as an Owner of the sim to say you had nothing to do with plotting Liana’s death is a cheap cop out. You are a part owner you are heald to issues like this as all. I would assume you agreed to it all. Then if you did you are just as responsable as the ones who did. )) ]]]]

    Player, i am soley responsible for the killing of Liana’s character in RP.Unfortunately she was asked to leave the SIM as a player. I personally asked for permission from Liana, to run with the scene. She agreed. Other admins were not aware of the scene details.

    Eyea Aya.

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